Curse

Silmor · Jul 26, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue

And, if you didn't notice, you're a hypocrite. You just called him a griefer, and then continued to tell him not to judge others behavior and if they deserved it or not.

There's nothing hypocritical about that statement. If I threatened to ruin the first mission for him we'd both end up in because I would find that appropriate 'punishment' for his griefing, THEN I'd be hypocritical. See? Using big words isn't so hard.

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Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar

"no,no, refer to Silmor for perfect example of an arrogant dick."

Glad to be of service. Now hurry home, I think your mother is calling.

Teufel Eldritch · Jul 26, 2005, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Nothing wrong with vengence... as long as it's just.

ManadartheHealer · Jul 26, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch

Nothing wrong with vengence... as long as it's just.

While I agree with this statement, I must pose a question: Who decides if it is just?

And some follow-up questions: Are they the right person to make that call? Would a third party (an impartial third party) be better for making said decision?

The tricky thing with vengeance is it's usually the person wronged who makes the decision, and their view of what actually happened may be skewed somewhat.

TheGreatBoo · Jul 26, 2005, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

The tricky thing with vengeance is it's usually the person wronged who makes the decision, and their view of what actually happened may be skewed somewhat.

Skewed, or skewered. haha

Algren Cole · Jul 26, 2005, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by Teklord

Wouldn't skip scenes? Now that the end result is not justified.

It's one thing to get 'revenge' when the mission was clearly laid out as "Mission AND Bonus" at the beginning, and then someone decides they don't want the bonus...
But doing something like that, nah uh. There is a first time for everyone, I don't skip cutscenes if it is my first time through the mission - and I don't care if others don't like that.

I don't skip cutscenes the second time through the game...or even the third. The cutscenes are amazing and I'd hate to miss out on the beauty of the art put into these cinematics just because I(or someone else) was too rushed to bother....All the time people say "skip the cutscenes" and I say "no".....getting upset because someone wants to see a portion of the game...that's rediculous. I agree with you Teklord....it's not my place to tell someone how they can play the game...and what they can or can't see.

TheGreatBoo · Jul 26, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

I don't skip cutscenes the second time through the game...or even the third. The cutscenes are amazing and I'd hate to miss out on the beauty of the art put into these cinematics just because I(or someone else) was too rushed to bother....All the time people say "skip the cutscenes" and I say "no".....getting upset because someone wants to see a portion of the game...that's rediculous. I agree with you Teklord....it's not my place to tell someone how they can play the game...and what they can or can't see.

Eh, sometimes its ok to skip, and sometimes its ok to watch. I skip everynow and then and watch every now and then. I get irritated when I ask people to skip because I have to go and they don't however.

Algren Cole · Jul 26, 2005, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by TheGreatBoo

Eh, sometimes its ok to skip, and sometimes its ok to watch. I skip everynow and then and watch every now and then. I get irritated when I ask people to skip because I have to go and they don't however.

but what about people playing the first time through?? they should skip the cutscene(the plotline) just because you have to go?

Teklord · Jul 26, 2005, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Yes, its okay to watch them even if you've watched them a thousand times. I can't even tell you how many times I've watched Star Wars!

And...

Yes, it's okay to want to skip. And if everyone else agrees with you then great! If not though, you are more than welcome to get irritated. However this doesn't provide sufficient cause to do what the above poster claims he did - light 2 out of the 3 mission ending points, and then run away to go make lunch.

Snuk the Great · Jul 26, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36

I think that asking for people to skip the cutscene is stupid. If they want to see it let them see it. If I want to see the cutscene I wont be stopped by some punk telling me to skip it.

Anyway to get back on topic

. I think that though his revenge might not have been just (quoting Ghandi: An eye for an eye makes the entire world blind) it must have been sweet. Adding to this he regret his actions and thats good enough for me

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MasterQu · Jul 26, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

<gets into lotus position>

If one stands for their convictions then one will not regret there actions.

ummmmmmmmmmm

Ellington · Jul 26, 2005, 09:39 PM // 21:39

I <3 cutscenes. That awesome script and voice-acting never gets old.

Lorelei · Jul 26, 2005, 09:40 PM // 21:40

*opens the pandora box*

I thought he made an evil character whose purpose in life was to sabotage other people's mission.

*runs for cover*

MasterQu · Jul 26, 2005, 09:44 PM // 21:44

LOL that like the person who plays as Suicide #$%, I won't say the full name i know name posting's not allowed, who joins groups and when the mission starts runs off argoing everything, drawing them back to the party and then drops. I swear! I've been in a group several times with them just to make certain thats what there doing. But there name says it all so your for warned.

IxChel · Jul 26, 2005, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch

Nothing wrong with vengence... as long as it's just.

I think you mean "vengeance" -- and vengeance is never "just". Self defence is just, removing someone from a situation so that they cannot harm others is just; however, actively seeking to hurt others is never just. By "getting even" with one person, he has wronged two others; and has filled the well with poison. His account should be banned.

Lorelei · Jul 26, 2005, 09:46 PM // 21:46

If I am that evil, I wouldn't tell it with my name

MasterQu · Jul 26, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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By "getting even" with one person, he has wronged two others; and has filled the well with poison. His account should be banned.

Pfft... The two people had just as much a chance to speak up for him, or stop playing. They are guilty by there inaction. They let the leader get away with breaking the agreement.

Teklord · Jul 26, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51

His account should be banned??? LoL!! They can't even solve the true problems like botting and of course there are probably literally hundreds of scammers scamming people on a daily basis. Yet they should ban him for getting even after being wronged?

Like that'll fly.

And yes, like I alluded to in a previous post of mine I would quite actively set out to find some way to get back at those that have wronged me if in that exact situation where the plan was "Mission AND Bonus" right from the first minute. It's just like I believe if someone were to threaten to take away my God given right to live in this world, then at the same time they forfeit their own.

MasterQu · Jul 26, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Teklord

And yes, like I alluded to in a previous post of mine I would quite actively set out to find some way to get back at those that have wronged me if in that exact situation where the plan was "Mission AND Bonus" right from the first minute. It's just like I believe if someone were to threaten to take away my God given right to live in this world, then at the same time they forfeit their own.

I agree never should the rights of the victem be less than the victomiser.

Numa Pompilius · Jul 26, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

it felt bad... but it was still kind of cool...

You want a pat on the head for being a griefer?
Just leave the group instead. As you say the mission is easy on 3. Actually it's easy on 1.

ManadartheHealer · Jul 27, 2005, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by IxChel

By "getting even" with one person, he has wronged two others; and has filled the well with poison.

He has wronged two others who were either passive agressive, or simply lazy and didn't act. Of course they knew he was being wronged, but didn't give a shit as it "didn't affect them". I personally don't think he should have, but whatever.

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Originally Posted by IxChel

His account should be banned.

Hasty, hasty. This was no elaborate scheme for vengeance; just a simple act of retribution. DrSlugfly has been posting on this site for awhile, and he seems like a fine person. He doesn't whine, doesn't insult, and doesn't flame (to my knowledge

). Let's say what he did WAS wrong. Who the hell are you to judge? And why should such drastic action be taken?